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Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 82	Posted - 2012.06.17 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: You want a cloaky Hulk with no sacrifice in yield? "Unprobable" off grid boosting Hulk would be cool.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 82	Posted - 2012.06.17 07:14:00 - [2] - Quote Jypsie wrote: They simply take waaay too much time to align. That's why you fit 100mn MWD for travelling. Just remember to disable auto repeat.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 82	Posted - 2012.06.18 09:04:00 - [3] - Quote Breezly Brewin wrote: mining in a ship that costs less than a hulk will always be reasonable Unfortunately Rokh will get CPU nerf. Hulk can't be tanked after nerf, so it's paper thin. Some people will start to use Retrievers/Procurers. And then Goons start to pay for every miner kill in hisec.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.22 08:52:00 - [4] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: (also, I'd probably use that like a Curse) And it will die horribly, just like arty Curse.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.22 22:13:00 - [5] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: The Hulk's tank has never changed. Read dev blog. Hulk's tank will get nerfed, because it's not combat ship its tank is irrelevant.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.22 22:48:00 - [6] - Quote Dave stark wrote: "Resilience: another point is to give some of them proper EHP not to be one-shot by anything that even remotely sneezes on them." might want to read the dev blog yourself. it disagrees with you. yes, it says some, but it also doesn't mention reducing the ehp anywhere in the blog. Currently Hulk reaches easily 40k+ EHP with proper tank, Exhumers 5 and siege link in Orca. Skiff will be "capable of having battleship-like EHP" = ~40k EHP. Mack gets less tank even when tanked fully. Maybe 25k EHP. Hulk? Less than 20k EHP = can be destroyed by one T2 fit Catalyst. Not to mention that Skiff would be useless in hi/low if it keeps its current speciality. Same goes for Mack and ore mining.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.22 22:56:00 - [7] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: What battleship has only 40k EHP fitted? Do you seriously think that they will give it 200k+ EHP tank? Base EHP for most BSs is around 40k.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.23 04:34:00 - [8] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Battleship-Like-EHP != Unfitted Battleship EHP One more bait ship for Goons that is then. More EHP than fully tanked Maller but with smaller hull. Yeah, no way overpowered.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.23 04:47:00 - [9] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: That's not a sentence You should go back to 3rd grade.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.23 05:29:00 - [10] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Submit the sentence. "that" doesn't work. Address is a bit suspicious. RubyPorto wrote: Now to address your concern about bait ships, with regards to the Maller. So? You think Maller is too expensive so you need a cheaper ship to use as a bait.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.23 05:37:00 - [11] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: The procurer is more expensive then the Maller Stop lying.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.23 07:10:00 - [12] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Point still stands regarding a new bait ship. So? That's fine, if you let me do pve/hauling in my ceptor or force recon.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.24 11:55:00 - [13] - Quote A properly tanked Hulk can be destroyed with one ship.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.24 13:13:00 - [14] - Quote Dave stark wrote: a properly tanked anything can be destroyed by 1 ship if it's not shooting back. i fail to see your point. What ship can suicide gank Damnation? Probably wouldn't matter if it shoots back because as we all know Damnation's dps is something you don't want to speak about.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 03:53:00 - [15] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Not in a suicide gank. A fact that has been pointed out so many times when you lie about it. Well, it's not even near profitable, but it can be done. Don't know if there's someone stupid enough to do it. [Hulk, Tankit] Damage Control II Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Modulated Strip Miner II Modulated Strip Miner II Modulated Strip Miner II Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Ancillary Current Router I vs. [Talos, Talos fit] Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer [Empty Low slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I [Empty Rig slot] Hobgoblin II x5 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-905 Zainou 'Deadeye' Large Hybrid Turret LH-1005
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 05:43:00 - [16] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: That's not properly tanked. 40.8k EHP vs Void and still enough tank that 2 volleys from a Nado won't kill it. [Hulk, Tank Fit] Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Damage Control II Medium Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Quite big EM resist hole you have there.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 06:07:00 - [17] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: I prefer this fit with a shield harmonizing link (preferably with a max skill mindlinked siege booster in a Tengu). If you leave one or two of the T2 hardeners off, you can set to overheat, and activate when you get nervous. Hardeners last for about 2 minutes or so, and you can carry paste in the Orca if it was a false alarm. [Hulk, EHP] Micro Auxiliary Power Core I Damage Control II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 Mining Drone II x5 I would use same. I would replace those drones with 5x Vespa EC-600 and let Orca pilot deal with belt rats.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 08:03:00 - [18] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Whops, must have forgotten to recheck my vs. Nado EHPs. This'll hit your 28k EHP vs EMP and 34.8k vs Null And a T2 Talos does 32.5k damage before Concord. [Hulk, Tank Fit] Micro Auxiliary Power Core II Damage Control II Medium Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Assuming miner is AFK (we are talking about hisec miner here after all), no fleet bonuses (again we are talking about hisec miner here) and ganker has way too much money: [Oracle, expensive gankOracle] Ahremen's Modified Heat Sink Ahremen's Modified Heat Sink Ahremen's Modified Heat Sink Ahremen's Modified Heat Sink [Empty Low slot] [Empty Low slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] [Empty Med slot] Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Medium Energy Burst Aerator I Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I [Empty Rig slot] Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-905 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 09:08:00 - [19] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: But seriously, you're using faction and officer mods on a suicide gank ship. What the hell is your point? You get faction items from every rat in null and officers spawn every 20 mins (and you can even solo them). And gankers are null people who try to teach carebears how this game should be played.
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 09:41:00 - [20] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: ... Trying to troll doesn't work when you've developed a history of being exactly that dense. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101626
Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State 89	Posted - 2012.06.25 10:16:00 - [21] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Unless the link is self explanatory* as to relevance and such, it helps to explain why you link something. *and concisely so; I'm not reading 29 pages to try to suss out relevance You only need to read first page. Only relevant part is what God of EVE says. Everything else in that thread is irrelevant.

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